Say hello to Ebony, my little baby I adopted from Daisy’s egg hatchery!
Ebony is a black dragonet with ghostlike patterns on her snout and along her spine. She has unique markings on her mainscales and ears that are bigger then her deep grey horns. Her wings are a denim blue hue that fades into cobalt and cerulean.
She loves to read, but mostly just looking at the picture scrolls. She is shy and doesn’t enjoy talking, but will play with her friends at daycare.
looks at the stack of books on my desk. At least we both share something there. x'D What're your books though?
And sweet! Getting a nice birthday haul to go along with your Christmas one. Noice. ;)
Just relaxing after having to clean my homes (yes, plural, my grandma's place too), clipping off Boxing Day sales and getting a decent haul for my buck, dealing with weekend dishwashing and just drinking in some Proud-Cola now.
My books are mostly other dragon series I’m trying out, and I got a few on national geographic stuff like animals saving lives. I also got an enormous 800 page book called The Chronicles of Narnia, all six books in one.
Yessss, I’m mostly getting Gift cards tho probably XP
I had to help clean my house too, fortunately only my own.
Hm, any book suggestions about like animals or wof related ones? I like to try out new books, since that’s how I got to wof.
Ooooooooh, The Chronicles of Narnia! Haven't read that myself, but it's a fantasy classic. :)
Hey, gift cards are neat too! (Though, I always wonder why we can't just get the money itself instead of cards so we can choose what to do with it ourselves.)
During Christmas? That sucks. xD
Hm. Most of my reads are of an older nature, but I'd suggest the Mistmantle Chronicles series by M. I. McAllister, Redwall series by Brian Jacques or Dragon Rider by Cornelia Funke (got two sequels, from what I heard.)
Yeah, my dad and Grandma recommended it to me. I haven’t started it yet, maybe during school I will.
(I wonder that too. Plus, isn’t it easier to go to the bank instead of driving all the way to the mall or something? You can use them online so maybe that’s a bonus)
Yup. I had to help clean three times, we had that many parties.
I like older books, especially the classics, like The Twenty-One Balloons by William Pere du Bois. He tells the story himself to a crowd, and it’s very interesting. It’s written in a rather old style I like too. Thx for the suggestions c:
I have The Hobbit, it’s in my book pile waiting patiently for me to read it. I’ve never really thought of reading Lord of the Rings, maybe I’ll try it. Island of the Blue Dolphins and Hatchet are good reads too.
What are your opinions on the Pantalan tribes? And the books about them.
I started reading Warriors when I was nine, then got slightly more violent then I was before and played cats with my friends every day, then read even more violent books, so I feel like I might be fine with them. lol.
Um.., what’s a YA title?
Why? Is it like... a really strong hate or something? I’m not a huge fan either.
Yes, me too. I’ve always read huge books, and read Black Beauty mostly by myself in grade two.
Yes, I’ve read a few, but I’m mostly into animals so there’s not many books that are too mature about them.
I think I hated tpj because of the ”plot twist” at the end where the plant had taken over everything. And (not being a homophobe here) how much Sundew thought about Willow so much and it was just Willow this, Willow that, and it got annoying.
If you're into animal fare with a major edge, I would recommend The Builders by Daniel Polansky. And Watership Down (though it is rather graphic for its age demographic) and Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH.
How can anyone take "intelligent omnicidal plant take over everything and wants everyone dead" with any shred of credibility. This really should've been the moment WoF fandom imploded instead of a half-dozen "well, actually..." from people who want to believe Tui isn't that dumb. NO. It's pretty dumb and nonsensical and while I don't entirely think it's a bad idea, the way everyone's going to either band together to burn the dumb intelligent omnicidal plant severely lacks execution.
I mean, I had similar problems with Qibli and Blue thinking about Moon and Cricket respectively, so frankly, I thought it was annoying even before Sundew. (I actually didn't mind Sundew doing it, but personal preference.)
Ok, I should probably be writing this all down. I’ve read Watership Down already, it’s definitely one of my favourite books. There’s also a Netflix series on it.
I thought Qibli was the most annoying, and it doesn’t help that I dislike him anyways. He’s always referring back to his “poor childhood” and how much he wants his mother to love him. Blue didn’t do this as much, or I just didn’t notice. I also like Blue and Cricket a bit more then Qibli and Sundew, though.
I heard! But the original book is the richest vein for me. No disrespect to the Netflix version, but generally source material trumps adaptation. :D
By the dead, he was. Qibli and Moon were the two characters I was, as a writer and reader, tempted to shove in a locker for being so very obvious and needy for company. And it's not I inherently dislike these characters, I have plenty of ideas on how to write them better, but their characterization and their relationship was so tween, I kept cringing at them.
For me, with Blue, it's why are you falling in love with one of the slave-owning class. Maybe I shouldn't blame him so much as Tui, but I thought that was honestly such a terrible romance idea and it doesn't help that Blue idealizes Cricket to all hell.
I’d like to read the original version, but there are so many other books I need to read rn so maybe I’ll make a list of to-reads someday c:
Yes. If I could remake Moon, I’d have made her less shy in the first place, and kept her just about that shy, because the way she goes from what I’m like at school, shy and insecure, to like my friend, extroverted and outgoing is just weird.
I’d probably just redo Qibli altogether really. Maybe not insanely change his personality or anything, just make him more bearable.
I agree, but she might just be looking for unique ideas to make her seem non cliché and all.
As for their relationship, idk maybe just get rid of the idea in the first place of Moonbli.
Make a list and a commitment to set aside a bit of time every day so you can read them. :)
I'd actually keep Moon shy and insecure, that part's perfectly fine, and make her more intentionally neurodivergent, seeing how she has canonical sensory overload from the mind-reading. She doesn't make friends and she's been deprived of friendships or company her own age for years now and have her come out of her hole slowly across all the books, having the POV's relationship to Moon chart out the trajectory of her character arc (and have Moon be the last book's POV). All for a start. Oh, and 100% get rid of how beautiful and perfect her appearance is. Given how neurodivergent she should be, how awkward and insecure she should be, the idea that she's perfect looking is just... ugh. Give her a more average look.
There's a lot more I'd want to cover with Moon, like forefronting her place and trying to realize she's got a place in NightWing history and how she can guide them to a better, kinder place, despite her father being responsible for putting them under RainWing rulership and giving them a bad name. And keeping the love triangle, I think it works in a different premise, but that's as much as I'm willing to vomit.
With Qibli, I honestly wish they went more a child soldier angle with him. The sort of devoted soldier who pours all of himself into his mother figure Thorn and defines himself on how useful he is to other dragons that he's otherwise an empty dragon and forgot how to actually want anything for himself and has to learn through discovering himself and what he likes.
I definitely liked her shy and insecure too, but I feel like she’d get possibly unwanted attention or something like “why is she so shy?” Or something like that, though I may just be saying this because of irl stuff. I also think that maybe she isn’t completely perfect, and it’s just Winter and Qibli falling for her and they skip over all flaws. She does still seem all too perfect though. Plus she’s supposed to be super smart.
Yes, I could probably go on for hours just pointing out how Moon could be different, changed, and made less perfect. I especially hated the love triangle and all of the ships in the series, I wish there could have been more of a sign that some of them just were not happening, like we know kind of nothing about Turtlejou. And Anemarin, but that’s likely to be purposeful, and Ripnami, the Thorn x Smoulder ship, and if we could more clarification on these things it could be more balanced. Obviously people would still be all Qinter and Pike x Anemone type of thing, but that’s their choice.
It’s like Qibli’s just realizing that he can do things for himself when he meets Moon, which is just plain weird. He’s like a shell of a dragon who only knows to impress and be “useful” to his mother and Thorn. He’s always about getting dragons to “like” him and it’s overall annoying in a way. I would change this to possibly give him a childhood rather then him being neglected by everyone in the first place and maybe having some kind of comfort zone where he goes to feel better and think for himself.
I think Tui could have (maybe, this is just how it kind of comes out to me) taken the love at first sight romance and changed it into whatever Blicket is becoming. I can see this series going into the Warriors series fast, where there are so many characters to keep track of and thank the moons we don’t have three perspectives in one book. Then I would really lose my mind and think about stopping reading wof like I’m thinking about quitting Warriors. It’s all hectic, prophecy after prophecy, special, perfect cats fulfilling them, dramatic death and war, I got tired of it all.
You really don't know how much I can type, do you. Don't apologize for lengthiness because buckle up. xD
I mean, that's fine, but a more confident Moon doesn't make sense to me because she's never had to integrate with other dragons her age until she got dropped into the deep end of the Jade Mountain Academy's environment. Where would she develop more confidence before? And, if she gets unwanted attention, that'd just make her retreat more into herself. Which is good character work, making Moon feel more aloof and just wanting some space to be alone because she's used to it. And true, but that's exactly why I wish Moon got the last book POV instead of the first, because Winter and Qibli's POVs skip over her flaws and since she doesn't really challenge or push back on that, her perceived lack of flaws become more truth than unreliable perspective. Giving her the last book would give her plenty of opportunity to showcase that Qibli and Winter's perspective on her is WRONG.
I'm actually fine with the idea of a love triangle (obviously not the way it was executed). Though, in terms of ships, the only ones I thought were ships for the sake of ships were Turtlejou (magically enchanted dynamic for one book), Anemarin (gayness by itself doesn't make a sudden ship good), Ripnami (he withheld his membership into the Talons of Peace to one of its victims) and Tholder (he tried to get her killed!) Though, I actually liked Qinter. xD
Actually, I like that part about Qibli. I just wish he got pushback on how deeply deeply unhealthy it is for him to want to be useful to everyone, so much so that he forgets to live for himself. And that his self-worth issues weren't tied to him having a girlfriend. But that requires more knowledge on child soldiers and the trauma it brings out, so yeah, if you want to write Qibli as a charming layperson we're supposed to relate to as an average dragon, your backstory works better. I prefer damaged and traumatic and half-broken Qibli myself.
Yeah, Warriors is a decent amount. Though, I don't mind it? I've read books where thousands of characters come into play and multiple POVs with every book. But I do agree that Warriors is really repetitive and repeating itself over and over again.
Understandable. I’m actually glad that Moon was the sixth book POV since she really got me into wof. It also worked out with Darkstalker. Shall we have a debate on him now? XD
I agree with that too, but I’m not much about adding that much romance. Maybe Quinter would have actually been a good ship now that I think about it.
Lol, not a big fan of Qibli, so it’s easy for me to “edit” him a lot.
I prefer possibly one or two POVs, three or four if it’s laid back in the story in general and it actually adds to the story rather then deplete it’s value of reading. Warriors needs to start over. Skip ahead fifty years.
I would've preferred Kinkajou as the sixth book, to be honest. We still could've had Moon, just from a more ambiguous standpoint of whether Darkstalker and her visions and mind-reading are truly a thing.
Personally, I just find it really screwed up that Moon had to be set up with someone? She's 4. Even in Tui's current age conversion rates, that's barely a teenager! She's barely interacted with anyone outside of her mother. Why did she need to have a boyfriend???
Fair, I'm not really happy with Qibli in execution either.
Well, sure, why would you add anything that depletes a story's value of reading? And I'd say Warriors just needs to die. Just stop. There's already a ton of stories and books. Just let everyone go to fanfiction for future Warriors stories from now on.
BUT THE SHIPPERS CAN'T WIN WAH WAH WAH. I would've paid actual money just to watch the shippers get rekt when Moon can choose neither of her suitors because she's 4, what is wrong with these readers and the author especially.
Yeah, but there's StarClan, y'know? When you have something like ghosts, you can always bring them back into the narrative to muck around with the new characters and take away focus from them and it'll just be a retread of stories with old stories. I don't think a skip forward solves anything because Erin Hunter can always bring back old characters for nostalgia's sake.
Love it with the exception of the entirety of The Lost Heir (did straight-up nothing for me), the ending of The Hidden Kingdom (did Glory have to be royal blood? Boo!) and the ending of The Brightest Night (yes, that's what makes Blister so threatening: 1+1 = 2 vipers = success! and then getting blown up by magic out of nowhere.)
I just meant at the end of the last book skip forwards so we can see where they are. But true, true, she tends to bring back cats from the dead a lot.
Tdp was good, and I liked how they were introduced. We weren’t thrown into the action right away, and the arena and Scarlet I think made the FanWings want to keep reading to see what happened to Scarlet.
I didn’t thoroughly enjoy tlh either. I guess it was nice to see Tsunami see her family and stuff, but then she kind of didn’t appreciate them? Mostly her mother. She has a mom as a Queen. Be grateful.
Thk I enjoyed, it was probably my favourite book out of them all, and for some reason I just love the part about the games to make Glory Queen. But her being royal saved Kinkajou, some I’m alright with her royal blood.
TDS was okay, not much to say about it. I don’t like Fatespeaker though, and don’t blame the fake dragonets for thinking she’s annoying.
The end of Tbn was a sort of let down for me, I didn’t exactly want Burn, Blister, or Blaze to be Queen, but then Thorn was Queen and I kind of wish Onyx were Queen now.
TDP was good and I did like it, but Clay's characterization was pretty razor-thin and he was dumb, but lovable (in a way that I don't think his later characterization, especially in EP, was). And the MudWings weren't really there (an absence that Tui continued later on...)
Eh, given that Coral treats her male children horribly through neglect and her female children through keeping them close to her (yes, grief is speaking there, but given that muzzle remark she gave to Anemone, Coral is an awful parent, no matter the gender) and even threatened Tsunami that if she didn't protect her next egg, two of her children would be dead, implying she'd kill Tsunami, honestly, Tsunami got a bad case of "be careful what you wish for" with Coral. Though, I agree Tsunami's a huge jerk, but mostly towards Anemone during one part of TLH that made me hopping mad and loathe her.
Sure, but Tui wrote her to be royalty. Tui made writing choices to make Kinkajou get sprayed and have royalty save the day and I think it makes for a lesser book to me, given how much Glory's had to fight for her place in the world and BOOM she gets the throne because royal blood.
I loved TDS, to be honest. xD
And yeah, TBN's ending jobbed out all three sisters. I was perfectly fine with Thorn being queen, but I wish we got more foreshadowing on her way back in The Lost Heir and The Hidden Kingdom instead of having her a last book character.
I really wish we had a book on a tour of the Kingdoms, and it’s like a main character in that tribe shows us around the place. That would be cool.
Yes, Coral is an awful parent, but a good Queen at least. She might just been raised to neglect the males, but she seemed to really care about Gill. I don’t remember the part about Anemone, but I believe it.
True. I do wish she’d won it fairly (at least at the end).
Thorn being Queen is probably more beneficial to everything, but she was kind of just thrown in there and Sunny was just like “How about my mom I just met? She’d be a good Queen!” And more warning would be nice.
Yoooooooooo, that was pretty much my idea for third arc until Pantala came along. My idea was that an ambassador's aide (going with the dragonet motif) came along to show us different tribes through diplomacy and getting into crazy post-war adventures because ending a war is easy, keeping the peace is so much harder.
... Is she a good queen? I mean, she gives Blister so much allowance and never cottoned on that she didn't care about her beyond a home base and it just seems like all she does is write stories while her council does all the work while she signs the dotted line. Heck, even Shark seemed more involved in the politics, whereas all Coral had to show for her reign was telling Webs that he could've taken any other egg (hey, maybe a good queen would consider not have egg theft at all???) and ripping Tortoise apart in a needlessly bloody and violent way for simple failure and executing an innocent guard whose crime was going through an illness while on duty? Honestly, Coral's track record leaves a lot to be desired in my eyes.
Yes, but that's still not good. And it's not like neglecting males is a Pyrrhian-wide thing, given Ruby dotes on Cliff. And, I don't know, the way Coral talks about him and his status makes me think Coral really cared about Gill's status, especially since she was completely unwilling to listen to Gill during Talons of Power's prologue. For someone who claims to love her mate a lot, she sure made a point to ignore him when it counted.
Also, if you want, here's the exact Anemone dialogue:
"I tried complaining once," Anemone said with a stab of venom in her voice. "Mother nearly got me a gag to match the harness." "At least somebody loves you," Tsunami said. "And you're with your own kind. And you know your own stupid language."
(Because, yes, Tsunami, your younger sister just told you your mother would actively silence her if she mouthed off ever, but it's you that has the bigger problem. Gag me with how self-centered and inconsiderate this reads.)
Yeah, I agree there. Hence, mention her in The Lost Heir through a military report to Blister and consider having Blaze and Glacier talk about a bandit leader that's causing problems for Burn in The Hidden Kingdom.
She’s a little insane, I agree, but she has decent organization and all of your points are true. And she was a complete mess during the war, I wish we could have some background on her, even just her telling a short story or something. She shows how truly careless she is really when somebody points out that there’s a dead dragon and basically ignores it like a dead citizen doesn’t matter. Then she hears it’s a SkyWing and suddenly she’s interested.
I know it doesn’t make it right, and we didn’t know what exactly was happening but you’re right. I haven’t read tlh in awhile, plus it wasn’t my favourite book so I wasn’t as interested the last time I read it.
In the first book Tsunami was a much better character, because of the way she acts. But now she’s sort of pitying herself and I’m annoyed. She also now acts more superior to everyone in the school, seeming slightly grumpy. We already have enough grumpy-grumps in the series.
Who do you think the next book protagonist should be?
The sail's sailed there beyond fanfiction, given the Pyrrhia-Pantala war that's coming.
Well, no, she's not insane so much as an incompetent and brutal ruler. She's making lucid choices, they're just garbage ones like trusting Blister and Whirlpool because they suck up to her, especially in the latter's case. Yeah, but her having a decent organization doesn't mean it's hers. Given the rest of her character, it looks like the SeaWing council was an institution long before Coral was born and she just took advantage of it. And yeah, she's trashy that way.
I have a decent memory of the books, and all the worst parts of The Lost Heir are forever fresh on my mind.
Yeah, not a fan of Tsunami ever. And Wings of Fire is full of grumps. xD
I hope it’s not as long as the War of SandWing Succession, or really a huge war at all. Snowfall seemed to be freaking out at the end of tpj, so anything can happen really. I liked Glacier much better.
I would really like to see, as a possible protagonist, a happy IceWing. They are all grumpy, though I think Lynx from what I’ve seen isn’t all grumpy.
I think Jerboa should and could be a protagonist, if not of the next book. And yeah, I was gonna say Sora or Lynx.
Yup yup, and honestly, I can't see this war ending in two books. I guess Darkstalker's war against the IceWings took only one book, but this is an entire continent against another. Seems like one book is too little to cover it all.
I have plenty of grumpy jerks, heck, one of my main OCs is a grumpy jerk. The trick's writing them as complex characters who do more than grumble. ;)
Just scrolling and working on stuff. Also looking at the word of the day. I’m making a “Word Army” out of the words of the days on the merrium-Webster and dictionary.com lol. I’ve got nothing to do for awhile, so I came on here. What are you up to?
You know, I've never had a peeps ever, though they do look very cute... too cute to eat? Ginger cookies are great too! But I've never tried cookies with pumpkin and cloves. Sounds very festive, though!
I did have this murder mystery idea for a story, and and one about an animus Queen that I’ve had for awhile. I’m thinking about making Mysticeti a page, she’s in a fanfic and a role play so I wanna write more on her.
I just typed up her whole history and stuff and it all disappeared *cry
It’s pronounced Miss-ti-set-ee
She is sassy, and grades herself on life, wishing she could go back and change things too much. She can be sassy, and she is all about sarcasm without her friends around.
Undecided about the appearance, but possibly olive and crocodile greens with some purples mixed in there. Her eyes are green.
She was born to a mother who like to write and travel, and both parents were horrible to her, as well as her three siblings. She had a crush on Hijiki at school, until maniacs came and bombed in and she fled for the Ice Kingdom, taking a wrong turn to the side of the in between of Pyrrhia and Pantala.
She’s also afraid of failure and claustrophobia, as well as dragons with dark pupils and dark scleras.
Sorry to hear, but um. I hate to tell you this... but you could've gotten it back with holding the ctrl key and then the z key. That sort of thing happens when you've been typing too long. Next time, consider copying a long message before posting it.
After I maybe work on a few more characters I’d like to add to and maybe set some out for adoption, I’d like to do an auction sort of thing. Irl I need to finish my tribe names thing I started in the summer, thinking up as many names and searching names for the tribes. I’ve only done MudWings and SandWings so far :p there’s more but it’s really far down in my memory...
What time in the day do you find you come up with your best ideas, or write best?
I can’t really write good after school, it’s more of a mind resting time for me, though I still come on here. Night for me is a fantastic time for writing, like right before I go to bed I’m exploding with ideas.
I do rest my mind by just scrolling and reading other’s creations, but I take a rest from writing.
I have my diary and my dream journal right beside me, just in case I have a good dream I want to remember. That’s a good idea! I have a bunch of notepads on the floor beside me, but maybe I’ll just set one up beside my radio.
I just had a great tribe idea. FoxWings. Ooooooo good ideas are happening...
It’s because they’re really big, and there isn’t any room on my nightstand.
There can be all the varieties of fox colours, and the rare arctic fox coloured one has a tail of the Aurora Borealis, and run in the sky to bring light, and are destined to become medicine dragons. They live in the taiga and tundra or a mix of both.
I did just get a smaller one. I’ll put it on someday XD
Arctic foxes are rare to see, but aren’t birthed by russet red foxes or foxes you’d see in a forest, they’d be born by another two arctic foxes. A rare fox dragon just sounds cool, and I sort of got the idea from a video I saw on YouTube.
Sure! You could just look through my content, I’m going to bed so I’m lazy :p
Who would you like for yours? (Also, sry I’ve been neglecting our collab with the fanfic, I’ll try to start working on it, it’s just I’m in 5 contests and I just finished them all, so I should be busier now)
Btw, was that a base that you gave me? Of Kohaku? Just wondering, I saw some of your art that you’d handmade(I think) and it looked a lot different and wanted to give credit... don’t want to get yelled at because of the art crediting thing...